Monday, April 9, 2012

What Class Divide? Rich and Poor, Red and Blue Agree on Wealth Distribution

By GARY BELSKY & TOM GILOVICH 



What’s an acceptable level of income inequality in America? Is the current situation far too unfair, as many who lean to the political left maintain? Would ending tax breaks for people earning more than $250,000 a year constitute “class warfare,” as many on the political right contend? Complex questions, to be sure. But some surprising insight into these issues comes from a remarkable recent study by Michael Norton of the Harvard Business School and Dan Ariely of Duke University. You might be surprised by the results, whatever your political persuasion or net worth.
Norton and Ariely were motivated by a simple but noble idea. As they explain:
Disagreements about the optimal level of wealth inequality underlie policy debates ranging from taxation to welfare. We attempt to insert the desires of ‘‘regular’’ Americans into these debates, by asking a nationally representative online panel to estimate the current distribution of wealth in the United States and to ‘‘build a better America’’ by constructing distributions with their ideal level of inequality.
In their survey of 5,500 Americans, Norton and Ariely started by asking respondents which of three templates of wealth equality they thought would be best: one representing perfect equality, where the bottom one-fifth of the population owns one-fifth of all wealth, as does the top fifth and every other fifth; one representing the current U.S. situation, where the top fifth controls 84% of all wealth, while the bottom fifth owns 0.1%; and one representing the distribution in Sweden, where the top fifth owns 36% and the bottom fifth controls 11%.
Note that the countries where the last two distributions currently exist — the U.S. and Sweden — were not revealed to the survey participants, which no doubt helps to explain why better than 90% of respondents preferred the wealth distribution in Sweden. Even more striking, this overwhelming preference for Sweden’s income distribution held among people who voted for George W. Bush in the 2004 election as well those who pulled the lever for John Kerry. And it varied only to a minuscule degree with the survey takers’ own incomes.
It’s also worth noting that the average American estimated that the top one-fifth of the U.S. controls about 59% of the country’s wealth—nearly a third less than the reality!
Regardless, Norton and Ariely also wanted to learn the kind of wealth distribution regular Americans would choose if they were creating an economy from scratch. Toward that end, they had respondents indicate what percentage of the country’s overall wealth should ideally belong to the richest one-fifth of the population, what should belong to the next-wealthiest fifth and so on. What they found was that U.S. respondents as a whole prefer a country with much less inequality than the one we now have. On average, respondents said that the top one-fifth of the wealth hierarchy should own 32% of the country’s wealth (vs. the 84% they now have and the 59% people think they have) and the bottom fifth should ideally own 11% (vs. the actual 0.1%).
It’s a fairly revealing set of results. Despite all the talk about a divided America and class warfare, there is a remarkable level of consensus about the ideal wealth distribution across the political spectrum and income levels. The preferred wealth distributions of Bush and Kerry voters were only trivially different—in the direction you would expect—as were the preferences of those making less than $50,000 and those making more than $100,000. For all the alleged discord in this country, there’s an amazing amount of real agreement on what “a better America” would look like.
To be sure, liberals and conservatives often have very different ideas about how that ideal distribution should be achieved. But much of the prattle about class warfare these days comes not from mainstream Americans, but rather from those folks who have the most to gain from pointing out differences even when they may not exist: politicians and the media who cover them.


Read more: http://moneyland.time.com/2012/04/03/what-class-divide-survey-shows-remarkable-agreement-on-wealth-distribution-among-rich-and-poor-left-and-right/#ixzz1rb04RcpC

22 comments:

  1. i agree with no tax breaks over for 250,000 a year because thats more than enough to live on so why not help the country get out of debt.

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  2. I think America should give up on money and just concentrate on education. Our country is being so immature and down graded. We need to focus on the intelligence of our further. Not saying we need to crack down on the school system but teachers NNEED to teach and not focus so much on the stupid testing part of everything and giving out test about stuff they haven’t even taught the kids.

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    1. ya ok cause teachers went to school and got "taught" they way they are supposed to "teach" im pretty that they arent not teaching the stuff on their tests. because if they were they would have had to learn that from somebody which im pretty college isnt like that. and even if it is why should that be a problem? shouldnt our "further" become more independent so they can fend for themselves and be able to teach themselves things????

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    2. Im pretty positive teachers dont give random tests on stuff they "havent taught" im like 99% sure they would lose thier job. They do give tests yes and if you payed attention and applied yourself you should be fine because the test is on the stuff they taught. Dont be making excuses for bad tests.College isnt gonna get any easier they make you teach yourself and just give the test. Its the way it works.

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    3. I agree with actlikeyouknow13 and BMOC. Teachers would lose their job if their tests were about stuff they haven't taught.
      Another thing, education costs MONEY! Everthing is interrelated. If we were to stop focusing on money, we would lose funding for education.

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    4. I agree that we should focus on our education, but I feel that we shouldn't be taught for a just a test, such as the MCA. In our math class this year we were taught the about the things that were going to be on the Mathematics MCA. I think that the stuff we learn shouldn't be so that we can pass just a test, but rather learn things that we can apply later in life.

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  3. I believe America should stop wasting our money on this war of greed. And focus its attention on the people in need, the bottom 1/5, who struggle just to put food on the table. And to stop only catering the top 10%.

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    1. I agree, I really enjoyed the video we watched in class the other day about the war it gave me a different perspective

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    2. See, the United States is a pretty ironic set up when it comes to this crap. They have a bunch of commercials and Ads and a bunch of other media related updates about starving kids in Africa and all the other starving people. Honestly, we need to forget about all these countries and focus on our own country. Its ironic that we help out all these 3rd world countries when we can't even help ourselves. Focus on the needle in your eye before you take the needle out of someone elses.

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  4. There is no "right" level of wealth inequality it is what is closer together is probably better...and rich should not get tax breaks but just have to pay the same %

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    1. agree the rich should have to pay the same or even more

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  5. i believe that america should stop wasting our money that could go to help our children get a better education rather then on point less stuff that isnt really effecting our people.

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    1. This is very true i feel like we are waisting all our money on usless things when we should really be saving it for underprivlaged children and families.

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  6. i think everyone should have to pay the same amount of tax even the rich

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    1. i agree it would make it a lot more fair for everybody then there wouldn't be a big conflic between people

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    2. i think that we should have to pay on a percent. that way everyone pays there fair share. there should not be any tax breaks for anyone because they have too much money.

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    3. I agree with Juliet. If everyone had to pay the same amount, it wouldn't be completely fair. The rich could easily pay a small amount of taxes, whereas a single parent might hardly make enough to keep everything going.

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  7. but naturally the politicans have to give tax breaks to the rich because they are rich and there supporters are rich. its there way of maintaning power, the status quo if you will. They depreive the lower class of thier funds thus they can not run for poltics except on a minor scale keeping the power in the hands of the upper crust. dont you just love our system.

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    1. It's one messed up system for sure. It would be great if everyone could step back and try to help make this country great again, but greed is too attractive for the people in charge to start making changes

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  8. We need people from the poor level of our economy to be put in charge. If we put someone who knows what it's like to be on the bottom (and someone without greed) in charge, things will change fast.

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  9. Why cant all the rich people help us give money?! seriously! They think they are on top of the world, but they are no better then those who need money

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  10. i think that now days all people ever care about is money when money should be the least of peoples worries. They say education is such a big thing but then they make you pay for classes if your not smart enough and give you no credit, i think that is unfair cause a person could try really hard but just not understand. Also, i think that people should have to pay the same amount of money, rich or poor... everyone is still equal.

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