Tuesday, February 14, 2012
Gay marriage OK'd in Washington state
Article by: KIM MURPHY , Los Angeles Times
In a boisterous ceremony at the state Capitol in Olympia, Washington Gov. Christine Gregoire -- a Catholic who weathered strong opposition, including a last-minute "action alert" from the state's Catholic Church leadership -- signed legislation to give same-sex couples the same right to a marriage license as anyone else.
"Look into your hearts and ask yourselves: 'Isn't it time?'" said Gregoire, a Democrat, as cheering supporters chanted, "Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!"
Also Monday, the New Jersey Senate passed a bill approving same-sex marriage, but the ultimate outcome in that state was expected to be different. Although the state Assembly is also expected to approve the measure on Thursday, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, a Republican, has vowed to veto the bill should it reach his desk.
In Washington state, the new law exempts churches, religious institutions and members of the clergy from participating in same-sex marriages if it goes against their beliefs -- a compromise aimed at hundreds of churches whose members phoned and e-mailed lawmakers in an attempt to defeat the bill. Several faith organizations signed on in support of the measure, however, Gregoire noted.
"Years from now, our kids will look back and wonder what all the fuss was about, but those of us who lived through the last 20 years appreciate how challenging this has been," said state Sen. Jamie Pedersen, a Democrat, who sponsored the bill through its contentious charge through the Legislature. On Monday, he introduced onlookers to his "future husband," a former high school administrator who stood on the sidelines cradling one of the couple's four children.
The issue is far from over, however. Conservative and religious leaders have vowed to begin collecting signatures for a referendum to overturn the new law.
The statute, set to take effect on June 7, would be held in abeyance if referendum proponents succeed in placing it on the November ballot.
"Much hangs in the balance over the next few months. This is a time for people of faith to work together," Gary Randall, president of the Faith & Freedom Network, said in an appeal to supporters.
He added in another statement: "This is a dark day for people of faith and those who honor natural, traditional marriage."
A separate initiative proposal to define marriage as occurring between one man and one woman is pending before a judge in Thurston County and also could make its way to the ballot.
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i dont even get why someone would wanna be gay. it was clearly meant to be guy and girl because they make babies. so i just think its all pointless
ReplyDeletei think that it is the persons choice so why does it matter to everyone. if they want to be happy why not let them. its not that big of a deal.
ReplyDeletemy question is what is the big deal about people constantly struggling with the fact that people of the same sex have an attraction to each other? isnt human nature to crave such intamicy with someone? no one ever said it had to be someone of the opposite gender people cannot help what they feel its called horomones for a reason...i fully support same sex marriage and i believe that this is a new turn of the ages we shouldnt linger so much in the past over these things
ReplyDeleteI'm torn on this subject. My aunt is happily married to another woman. I do not support same sex marriage, but it is important to me that she's happy. This concerns me for future generations how confused will our kids be?
ReplyDeletei agree with onenightstandbro because i dont think there is a point for being gay. you cant make babies with two dudes. or two women. i personaly wouldnt want our state to aprove of gay marrage because i dont want to see two dudes making out all the time.
ReplyDeletei agree with this. all these people in the world were NOT created by a man and a man or a woman and a women. they were created by a man and women. thats the way it has been and that going to always be.
DeleteWhy does the main goal of being with somebody have to be procreation? Obviously with the number of straight couples in this world, we will stay populated. Not every couple (yes, even straight couples) are together to "make babies". It is perfectly logical for two people to be together simply because they love each other.
DeleteJust because the government supports it doesn't mean that God does.
ReplyDeleteWhat about the Separation of Church and State that says that legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" ? I love God, but should religion really be brought into our government to make laws that restrict people from their own personal freedoms? I don't think so.
Delete@chavez21 i dont even like to see guys and girl making out. maybe you should just grow up and not be so concened about yourself!
ReplyDeleteargeed but its better than two dudes making out you know. maybe you are gay? hahah thought so
DeleteI would rather see a man and a woman making out, rather then a man and a man or a woman and a woman thats wrong! thats what god created 1 man and 1 woman first because thats how its supose to be. adam and eve.
Deleteso when people make out you stare and if god created man and woman why is there gays
Deleteno. and there are gays because something is messed up inside thier brains. god cant controle that bad things happen because of satan.
DeleteWhy do you assume that Satan is the cause of homosexuality? And why is that so wrong that people want to love who the heck they wanna love? What if I told you that you couldn't be with the person you loved?
Deletei agree with Navi. who cares who you are with. what if your child wanted to be with the same sex person? would you resent them? its there choice or possible the way they think without a choice.
DeleteI would rather see nobody make out in public, that is something that should be shared between two people (no matter gay, lesbian, or straight!) and not the world.
DeleteGod makes you how he makes you...its not other peoples choice who you can get married too whatever floats your boat.
ReplyDelete@chavez21 and onenightbro relationships are not about making babies, they are about being with the person you love.
ReplyDeleteyes they are. if you ever had b-t the only reason people are here is to repopulate. once you have babies u can basically die
DeleteSo what you are saying is that when someone has a child they should just commit suicide because now their life has no purpose?
DeleteThank you Navi for seeing it the way I see it. Obviously with a username like "onenightstandbro" we can see what his goals in life are ...
DeleteTheir Choice.You can be with whoever you dang well want to and should be allowed that privilege because it is you being you and NOT SOMEONE CONTROLING YOU. Hate when people are straight out against things and they lose the best of friends because you never know who is what because some people are not open about it or if they have tried they have been judged and shove in a different category just because they can't marry or be openly themselves. Especially with today’s strong religions who don't allow and those that do. People don't know who to trust with telling their side and the government is so confused about it as well just chose a dang side but don't choose before you know the whole story on why. Why a person is like that why they feel it is in nature to marry or be sexually engaged with the same sex.
ReplyDeleteI believe that gay mariage is a persons choice. Your meant to be the person you want to be and being yourself in anything you chose to do. It their choice. A person cant be happy if your pertending to be something your not. its not all about making babies its about loving someone.
ReplyDeletei dont think it matters if there is gay marriage if there in love they should be together
ReplyDeleteIn my view if a man and a man want to be with each other fine but dont call it a marriage, marriage is a relgious institution made by man blessed by god between a Man and a Woman. To call a sexual relationship between a man and a man or women and a women a "marriage" is a affront to god and a corruption of its purpose.
ReplyDeleteTo be honest I think gay people are just misinterpreting feelings with the same sex. I think they are just feeling a normal bond with another just they misread the feeling as a closer more personal feeling. I don't have an extreme issue with them, its just i view it as wrong. If I had a gay friend I wouldnt hate them but would tell them to keep their feelings to themself.
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ReplyDeleteI think it's arrogance. In society today, it's more accepted. I think love is love and if that is what someone decideds to chose,then let it be. It's none of your business what someone's sexual preference is. You chose to like the opposite sex, fine. It's a personal choice, and you should not be bashing someone because of someone else that is of the same sex that they are attracted too. So you don't want to see two guys making out? But yet all you boys are obsessed with lesbians going at it. It's contradicting. So don't even open your mouth and say that you don't want to see that. I see plenty of boy-girl couples dry humping each other in the hallways and you really think I want to see that, no. So it should be no different. So shut your mouth before you piss some people off, you don't know what some other peoples sexual preference are. You're straight up arrogant, and narcassitic.
ReplyDeleteI couldn't have said it better myself.
DeleteI totally agree!!!!!
DeleteI can't stand when people say that they can't stand seeing two people of the same sex kiss, yet, they are totally fine seeing a boy and girl just go at it in public?
im gay
ReplyDeletei believe that gay mariage is not right at all. god made a man and a woman for a reason. a man is not supose to be with another man same with women and woman is not supose to be with a woman. if god wanted that he would of mad a two men or two women but no he didnt want that because that is wrong that is why he created adam and eve a man and a women because thats the way he intended the world to be and he did that for a reason, so the man and woman would have children. a man and man or woman and woman can not have children and should not be able to have children because they are just setting that child for a messed up life. Gay marige is wrong and there is no way that it is right.
ReplyDeleteOkay let's just copy and paste your last post, cool.
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Deletemee to lets hook upp ;)))))
ReplyDeleteyou know i wish they would okay gay marriage in minnesota so you two lovebirds can get together, i would love to watch that :))))
ReplyDeleteWow. This is a topic that I have strong beliefs about and you guys clearly aren't mature enough to handle it.
Deletei think gay marriage is a personal choice. Yeah i dont wanna see a girl and a girl or a boy and a boy kissing or doing what ever they wanna do. its just not politically correct. If i had to vote whether or not its right or wrong. I think i would be totally against it, just for the fact that God made a man and a women for a reason. Since i am against the fact of gay marriage i think that it would be considered a sin.
ReplyDeleteit all depends on how you look at it, yeah you may not like girls kissing girls and boys kissing boys but dont you also want to have the people be happy with who they love then miserable because they arent able to be with the person thats ment for them.
ReplyDeleteyeah i see where you are coming from on that one but honestly i wouldnt care. Like yeah i want them to be happy and i am kinda in the middle with it all. i understand that they dont like the opposite sex and they like their same sex but in public make it pg until more people are becoming amune to it.
ReplyDeletethats very true i think that even if you into the opposite sex you should keep it pg in public not everybody wants to see other people smacking on eachother it kinda awakward to be seeing im totally for gay marriage but if there going to date and everything why cant they get married.
ReplyDeleteyeah i know what you mean pda is a little outragous now a days. like why are the teenagers sooooo horny! do it on your own time not in school. nobody wants to see it, its would be okay if it was every once in a while but if your sitting there in between hours making out and pretty much humping the whole time. i think most people would say that they hate it.
ReplyDeletei totally agree i could name a few people who do it all the time, it kinda grosses me out! so if im not that confortable watching a man and a women in public i dont think i would be okay with have gay people going out in public and doing that stuff either. im not totally for or against gay marriages whatever makes the person happy. its like if they are into the same sex how can they all of a sudden become into a different sex
ReplyDeleteyeah we kinda did get off the subject of gay marrige but if you think about it, its practically the same ideas. Yeah people can show there public affection but maybe not in a place where you know alot of people like school. Its alright to maybe hold hands but not all the time but when it comes to gays i think most people would make fun of them and thats when the person gets depresssed but they cant act in love with some one from a different sex when they really are attracted to their own gender
ReplyDeletei think i would be okay with gay marriages because they would already be dating and maybe living with eachother its like they would be already married but without it being legal, i may not be totally confortable with it but as long as the people are happy then ill be okay with it.
ReplyDeleteif it is approved in our state would everyone all of a sudden be gay? i dont think so
ReplyDeleteGay marriage is not okay. The majority of our laws are based out of the bible. In the bible, it clearly states that marriage is meant for Man and Woman. It is a sin to have a tangible intamacy with someone of the same gender. Man and woman are made for each other, not man and man or woman and woman. There is no justifing it. The random person who got sick of the norm and decided to start a counter-culture, started a new way of life.
ReplyDeleteTo be honest, you can be "gay" if you want to only you yourself can control who you are and what you do, but I do not approve of gay marriage and do not bring it around me. And I agree with Impa I do believe that in the bible it states. Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination." So ya there you go...I disagree with allowing gay marriage in our states I think a don't ask don't tell would be fine.
ReplyDeleteI completely agree. But here's a question I was recently challenged with: In the bible it says that it is okay for the people to own slaves, have many different wives, and stone adulterers. If we say that those rules don't apply anymore can we also say that homosexuality is no longer a sin?
DeleteWell I'm still down with stoning rapist, and if your Mormon or whatever then go ahead and own many wives, even slaves are allowable up to some point. I just think people frown upon it since the african american population used to be its main "product" PS: I'm not racist at all. I have a black president....
ReplyDeleteI believe that if someone is happily married to someone of the same sex then let them be. Whats most important is that they are happy with one another. Its better to let people know then to just hide the fact that you are in love with the same sex. Everyone is equal no matter what.
ReplyDeleteIf there happy im happy for them. Because same sex doesn't bother me one bit at all. So i think Same Sex people should be able to get married!
ReplyDeletethis is very wrong cause if kids see this is ok then they all start doing it if your gay stay away and keep your mouth shut cause you were not born that way
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